Tuesday, 1 April 2014

Coconut cleansing


I know that a lot of readers aren't on Instagram/twitter so won't have seen me talking about the Neal's Yard Coconut Oil and using it for cleansing so thought I'd quickly mention it here.

Back in January I posted about the RMS Coconut Cream Cleanser and received a lot of questions about appropriate skin types/what makes it so different from other coconut oils etc.

Last week I came across the Neal's Yard Organic Virgin Coconut Oil and tried cleansing with it for a few days. Suffice to say I've added it to my usual arsenal of cleansers - there are some differences though so I thought a few quick tips may help.

  • A lot of the original commentors were of the opinion that there was no difference between the RMS and 'any coconut oil you can buy from Lidl'. That's not the case - in my opinion. It's a bit like balsamic vinegar. Some are soft and delicious and some taste like sour rancid vinegar. 
  • The RMS version is more expensive and is obviously sold as a beauty product - as opposed to something you would cook with. I find the formula to be much more like a beauty product and thus more pleasant to use. It's very refined, not gritty and doesn't separate.
  • The Neal's Yard coconut oil is designed for cooking and it shows. It's very 'raw' and while it isn't as nice to use as the RMS - it still does the job perfectly well for a fraction of the price (although neither is £££)
 If you are interested in cleansing with natural oils such as the above:
  • Apply a small amount to your fingertips and get it on to the face quickly - it starts to melt as soon as you touch it.
  • Apply to dry skin.
  • You have to remove this with a flannel/washcloth. A muslin is no match for these oils. They are hardcore grease - albeit natural.
  • Give at least two rinses/four swipes with the flannel (rinse the cloth, swipe, turn over, swipe, rinse, swipe, turn over, swipe again).
  • They are suitable for all skin types - I did have some comments from people saying that the RMS had broken them out - but that wasn't my experience - good to know/be aware and know to wash it off correctly though. 
  • If you do decide to give these a go I doubt you'll be disappointed. They leave the skin incredibly soft and smooth.
  • Pure coconut oil is around 50% lauric acid. Lauric acid is a fatty acid that is anti-fungal, anti-viral and anti-microbial - so a good option if you have skin problems including random breakouts/dry skin/eczema/cold sores. The only other substance that high in lauric acid is breast milk.
  • And obviously...coconut is budget friendly. The RMS cleanser is £12.50 for 70ml and the Neal's Yard coconut oil is £9.00 for 300ml (comparatively - Eve Lom is £84.00 for 200ml and is mineral oil based - just a reminder)
If you do try the Neal's Yard version and don't like it - it's not a very expensive mistake to make - and you can always make some cracking roast potatoes with it instead. 


43 comments:

  1. Wouldn't these clog up your drain though? Coconut oil hardens.

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    1. I do tend to leave the hot tap running and swill with bleach more often yes!

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  2. Great timing! I've been thinking about buying coconut oil. You can use it for everything. Definitely going to check out the Neal's Yard one. Thanks :) x

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  3. Thanks Caroline!

    Would you use this as your first cleanse?

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    1. Either. It annihilates makeup AND is softening - so technically you could use for both.

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  4. hi caroline - can you speak a bit about the comodogenic rating of coconut oil? based on my research, it is 4 and that is quite high. i have been using hemp seed oil with a rating of 0 with high linoleic acid and am having pretty positive results - i have been struggling badly with hormonal acne (during pregnancy and throughout the 10+ months i have been breastfeeding). i am using it for cleansing and for moisturizing. perhaps speak more about OCM in general if you would. please advise and thanks in advance!

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    1. If you're doing well with the hemp I would stick with it. No need to potentially aggravate it! :)

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  5. I found one in extra virgin - and it's great. I tried some cheap option last year and I was not thrilled at all - this one I loved. I even used it on hair and it works great - normally I have very greasy hair in the morning (I wash everyday) but after using the oil the hair looked pretty decent by itself!

    Apparently they also sell skincare products but never tried them (am tempted though).

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  6. Hi Caroline, have been using the coconut oil as a cleanser since you posted it on instagram (sorry for the dm by the way! spam alert! eek! didn't realise i had that function?!? deleted sharpish!) Also been using pixi glow. I had some hard spots hiding under the surface of my skin on my chin. Always break out on my chin when im hormonal (pfft) Would you say I should stop (collaborate and listen? in the name of love? ...ahem...) or just go with it and let them erupt and be gone? Not sure if its the new products or my hormones...Thanks in advance :D

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    1. I'd keep going - but then I'm stubborn. See if they come up and disappear?

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    2. Aha! Just what I wanted to do, i am a dreadful zit fiddler :/ Thanks for the reply x

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    3. Just an update! IT WORKED! YEAY! Spots went on holiday with a pixi flea in their ear! Thanks gal! x

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  7. such an interesting idea.. love DIY skincare, will definitely try this idea out!

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  8. Hi Caroline, I wondered if you had any advice for using it for scalp psoriasis? I've tried to use it a few times and felt like it was really positive, but it took me about three washes to get it all out which undid a lot of the good work the coconut had done. Would love to hear if you have any clever recommendations for this!

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    1. Hi,
      I'm obviously not Caroline, just someone who always suffered from scalp problems. First, you can wash off the coconut oil with apple cider vinegar (1 part to 3 parts water). The vinegar itself does wonders for your scalp. On top of that you could try to go "no-poo" (google it...), which has helped me tons. Don't know which shampoo you use, but if you feel that you have to continue with shampoo, try the Weleda baby shampoo, which I also have very good experience with.
      I do no-poo with two different conditioners, adding lots of organic oils (argan, macadamia, jojoba etc...) to the second, and once a month I do the vinegar wash (mainly after coloring). It's made a huge difference!!!
      Good luck!

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    2. So sweet of you to reply Ayelet, I will give this a try! xx

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  9. Caroline Caroline,

    A few of my friends are trying to convert me into using Siley Emulsion Ecological compound. There claims are that it's ABSOLUTELY wonderful! They all have ERmazing skin hence my interest. Do you have any wise words on the matter.. I only discovered you last week (yes ONLY last week) and now barely look at skincare without your stamp of approval.

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    1. It's mineral oil based. I would pass.

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  10. I loved the Viridian Coconut Oil (until my daughter dropped & smashed it) but am interested in what you say about the finer texture of RMS - I'll try it next.

    Nic x

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  11. Hi Caroline, I've been adding glycolic acid to my routine as per your recommendation, and while my skin tone definitely improved--more smooth and glowy, far less thirsty looking--a couple of weeks in I ended up with breakouts of huge deep painful (cystic?) pimples, something I had never experienced before. I have tried both Peter Thomas Roth 10% Glycolic Acid Hydrating Gel and Liquid Gold (separate trials. I don't think I was overdoing it), and this happened both times. I really want the benefits of the glycolic but I'm scared that my skin doesn't like it. Is this possible? Am I doing something wrong? Should I try one more time? Thank you!

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  12. Oils are a bit like men. Everyone just has to find an oil that suits them. Don't give up if you don't fall in love with the first one you try.

    I've experimented with coconut oil as a pre cleanser but it seemed to break me out. However, I'm currently having great results with jojoba oil and sea buckthorn oil.

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  13. I've been using Lucy Bee raw organic coconut oil for cooking and to help with dermatitis on my face and really is an amazing product for the skin and also tastes like heaven on toast! (only about £10 for 500ml) it's definitely different to the cheap coconut oil you can buy in supermarkets. Really does help problem skin and anyone who has dermatitis/psoriasis like me should give it a go.

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  14. Mineral oil ISN'T the devil, ya know.

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    1. No you're quite right. It's more Beelzebub. :)

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    2. It's really not as bad as you make it out to be. For those like myself, with allergic, sensitive skin, mineral oil causes far fewer reactions, according to scientific research. Anyway, how can somebody who has previously raved about products with mineral oil backtrack and then sneer at it? A bit unreliable there, Caroline!

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    3. Ok Anon:

      Here's the thing. I always, ALWAYS say if you are happy with what you are using, whatever it contains, don't stop on my account. Always said it, stand by it. All I want for everyone is good skin - by whatever means you choose.
      And if you can point out when I have 'raved' about MO and then backtracked - please do enlighten me. I think you're confusing me with someone else.

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  15. I also use "normal" raw coconut oil, you can find pretty smooth ones similar in texture to RMS. In my country (Czech rep.) everything is much cheaper, so 300ml equal to 3,50 pounds you can get the highest quality one.

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  16. I love the RMS coconut oil. I also use it as a moisturiser on days when I'm staying in.

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  17. This looks amazon!!
    L x
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  18. Hi Caroline, seeing this post made me think about pregnancy and using safe stuff while you are pregnant. And I have in my skincare arsenal a lot of good stuff but don't know if it's good while pregnant. I am planning to get pregnant, and I am not really sure to what should I avoid, and/ or if you could give me a list of what you recommend from washer/ toner/ moisturizer/ serum/ oil/...etc... Or maybe if you could tell me, please, what are the ingredients I should avoid? For ex I have Omorovicza, Sunday Riley, Ladi Avocanto, Darphin in my skincare regimen, are those ok while pregnant? Thanks sooooo much if you can answer that.

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    1. Hi Virginie,

      I am current pregnant and in the US. My doctor asked for a list of all my skincare products and a nurse helped me figure out which ones contain harmful ingredients. It seems that the main thing is retinol (although my doctor is not a fan of anything with acid so he advised me to stop using Alpha H as well). This is really something you should go through with your doctor, as they will be the most up-to-date about harmful things in skincare and help you figure out what risks you want to take (i.e., he said to me that Alpha H is not known to be harmful but not known to be unharmful as cosmetics are not generally tested on pregnancy/fetal development so its really about what I want to risk for my baby). My Dr even advised me to stop using rosehip oil because he said that the retinol level is not known in a lot of natural products so it is difficult to tell if the quantity is harmful to the baby (Although again, its probably not but its about the risk). So I would suggest calling your doctor and asking if you can speak to a nurse about this. Hope this helps!

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    2. Hi Virginie/Anon,

      I feel I should jump in here very quickly! Firstly, CONGRATS. Being pregnant is both the most amazing and the scariest time of your life. Without doubt.
      However: There are very few products that need to be avoided in products - very few. And Anon I have to completely (albeit politely) disagree with you about the doctor knowing the most about ingredients - they really don't - at least not in the UK! There are two 'houses' of ingredients that are considered 'best used with caution' during pregnancy. One is certain essential oils in body products - the other is Vitamin A. The essential oil market is very aware of this and products will always say 'avoid in pregnancy'. Vitamin A is the most common scare-mongering, crazily avoided ingredient on the market during pregnancy.
      Yes, Roaccutane can cause severe abnormalities in fetuses - that's why you are prescribed the pill when you are on it. Vitamin A in skincare however, would need to be at crazy high levels to even begin to penetrate the dermis - an overnight cream containing retinyl palmitate has no issues whatsoever - BUT - I've had four babies - I know that once you're pregnant goes almost into a 'OHMYGODTHISMAYHARMMYCHILD' borderline-crazy mum-to-be mode (or it could just be me) so what I'm saying may fall on deaf ears. I'm not trying to say you should both go out and smother yourself in Vit A night and day - I'm simply saying be cautious how cautious you are! :)

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  19. The Hirons effect Neal's Yard coconut oil is sold out!

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  20. Hi Caroline, I have started using coconut oil at night as a moisturiser - is this something you would recommend? Thanks Lucy

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  21. I wish my skin agreed with coconut oil, but the last time I used coconut oil on my face, I had the worst breakout of all times - my whole face was full of tiny little spots full of something white, gooey and disgusting which kept on worsening throughout the day and basically I cried for a week until my face calmed down. Never putting anything coconut near my face again :(

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  22. Any recommendation for a good gel moisturiser? Looking for something alone the lines of Zelens Z but without the price tag haha, I have used the Zelens and I do love it but can't justify the cost at the moment. Thanks x

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  23. Hi, could you recommend a good gel moisturiser please, something alone the lines of the Zelens Z, I have used that and love it however I can't justify the price tag at the moment. Thanks x

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  24. Great post, Caroline! I have used regular coconut oil in the past and found it to be decent. Might try Neal's Yard if I find shipping in my country. :-)

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  25. I put coconut oil on my hair and flaky scalp and it seems to have cleared it up. Even better you can also make chocolates with coconut oil! Just add raw cocoa powder, maple syrup and vanilla extract, pour in a silicone ice cube tray. Put in the fridge and bosh, healthyish chocs.

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  26. This made a difference for me the moment I used it (the Whole Foods from-the-baking-aisle jar, that is). I love the creamy feel when it's on my skin and how smooth it is afterwards. And it's CHEAP! Thanks to Ruth C. for turning me on to your funny and wise site.

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  27. I always visit and never comment but I just HAVE to say I think you are wonderful and your blog has changed my life. I have learned so much from you. I think what you are doing here is really, really kind and so unselfish. Warm greetings from Mexico :)

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