Wednesday, 28 January 2015

Sunday Riley Good Genes



What is it?
'A brightening, multitasking, radiance treatment and mask.'
'Naturally brightens and improves radiance, texture and circulation.'

It's an AHA exfoliant.

Who is it for?
Ideally for someone concerned with the texture of their skin or pigmentation and scarring issues.

What’s in it?
Agave Tequilana (Blue Agave) Leaf, Cypripedium Pebescens (Orchid), Opuntial Tuna (Prickly Pear) Fruit, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract & Saccaromyces Cerevisiae (Yeast), Glycyrrhiza Glabra Extract, Lactic Acid, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride (Coconut Oil), Butylene Glycol, Squalene, Cyclomethicone, Dimethicone, PPG-12/SMDI Copolymer, Stearic Acid Glycyrrhiza Glabra (Licorice) extract , PEG-100 Stearate, PEG-75 Meadowsol, Lemongrass Extract, Arnica Extract, Triethanolamine, Xanthan Gum, Phenoxyethanol, Steareth-20, DMDM Hydantoin

What's not in it?
parabens
mineral oil
sulfates
phthalates
shea butter

Possibly acne/allergy/troubling for some ingredients?
40% lactic acid so no good for really sensitive skins
PEGs

Natural? Organic? Man made? Vegan?
Man made/natural/vegan

Tested on animals/sold in territories that advocate testing?
No/No

How does it smell?
Fresh, citrus-y

How does it feel on the skin?/Absorption rate?
Like a lotion, absorbs easily

How do you use it?/Where to use in your routine?
Daily as a serum or when required as a treatment mask. I would suggest using it in the evenings under an oil or a moisturiser. And yes you can use it after exfoliating acid toners. Maybe not P50, but certainly the milder ones.
I've seen a few reviews recently of people from people that are using it AM and PM as a serum. Personally, I think that's overkill and you may be opening yourself up to milia and broken capillaries. I'd keep an eye on your skin to ensure it isn't over-exfoliated. And make sure you are adding moisturiser/oils afterwards. 

How long before you should see results?
If you are new to acids you will see results in a day or two. If your skin is acclimatised to acids it may take a few more days, but it generally works quickly.

How long did I test it for?
A few months

How much is it? /Size/Approximate cost per usage?
£85.00 for 30ml - hard to say but it should last around 2 months if using a few evenings a week (from my experience). 

What’s good about it?
Good Genes gets all the praise because the effect is almost immediate. It contains 40% unneutralised lactic acid which gives it a very low PH. As lactic acid works on the surface of the skin - more topical than its counterparts, the irritation risk is less than with other acids such as glycolic and salicylic. 
I prefer to use it in the evenings simply because it is so effective at resurfacing that I find my makeup can have a tendency to go patchy if I use it during the day. 
It is purposely used in a soothing, calming base to counteract any potential irritation from the strength of the lactic acid, and this seems to work well.

What’s not so good about it?
The high % of lactic acid could be too much for some skins. 

Works well with?
You can mix it with Sunday's Ceramic Slip cleanser for a 'Flash Facial'. Sunday Riley recommend using this over Luna, but I have always done it the other way around. Good Genes first, then Luna. 

What’s the website like?
It's being revamped as of 25.03.16 and thus unavailable.

Similar products?
Obagi ExfoDerm Forte
Drunk Elephant T.L.C. Glycolic Night Serum
Cosmedix Purity Clean


Sunday Riley Good Genes is £85.00 from CultBeauty.co.uk and $105.00 from Sephora.com









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71 comments:

  1. I recently became hooked on GG after receiving some really generous samples from Sunday Riley (which I appreciated a lot - my skin is very acne prone so I wanted to check it wouldn't react horribly before I shelled out £85!)

    I can see a definite difference since starting to use this... scarring and even live acne seem reduced. Plus my skin is so smooth!

    It's been out of stock EVERYWHERE but Cult Beauty seem to have some now - just ordered my bottle this morning!

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    1. Did you just contact them on their website? I also have acne prone, sensitive skin and always want to sample something like this before hand. I appreciate the information!

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    2. Hi - yes I just emailed an address from their website!

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    3. What did you say to them? I tried emailing but they said they don't offer online sampling..

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  2. I had a couple of samples of this following a consultation with Caroline last February. It was GREAT. My then un-Hironsed skin (terrible products being used) sort of woke up and went "Oh. Oh this is good." I am working up the nerve to fork out for Sunday Riley's products, but this was just great.

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    1. I NEED a consult. As it seems their is no good beauty therapist in Paris!!!

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    2. OMG what, How do you get a consultation with Caroline???

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  3. Been on my wish list for agessss

    Thanks Caroline xxx

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  4. Hey Caroline,

    I've wanted to try this for a while now. It's on my list of things to buy. But also want to invest in a Sunday Riley oil, was thinking to get Juno but Luna has now caught my eye!
    Which, in your opinion, is a better option to get?
    I'm 24 with lots spot/acne scarring on my right cheek (think I had a hormonal break out) and dehydrated/combination skin, also can look a bit dull!

    Thank you :-)

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    1. Hey so I'm just a touch older than you with pretty much the same concerns, and here is what I think:

      Part 1: I won a gift card so I tried out Juno and it's not something that I would recommend to people with our skin type. Just to give you an idea, my routine is v. Hironsy - oil/balm 1st cleanse mild 2nd, acid toner, spray/hydrating toner, serum, moisturizer and/or oil. Juno is hydrating, but even though it's not especially heavy it leaves me feeling greasy. I do really like that some nights, but there are cheaper oils that are equally hydrating. It's about the consistency of olive oil (which it smells like, I think she mentioned that in her post about it though) so whenever you go shopping sample some on your hand and look for a thicker one if that's what you're after. It didn't even my skin tone out or fade any scars or do anything other than hydrate really as far as I could tell, it was pretty disappointing. I was/am curious about Isis, but I pretty much only use oils at night so I think Luna is the frontrunner for me now. Which leads us to...

      Part 2: My sister works at Sephora, where the salespeople are given loads of samples so they can direct us towards products that they actually believe in. She and I are both OBSESSED with Good Genes because, as Caroline mentioned, works and it works over-freaking-night (seriously, visibly smoother, brighter, more even, less acne and red skin every flipping time. If you have to pick between Good Genes and an oil, forget the oil.) so she was really excited when Sephora supplied everyone with samples when Luna came out. She's also the same skin type as us (same/similar routine as me), and #humblebrag but she and I are selective/skeptical when it comes to skincare so she told me to wait a week before she'd give me her first thoughts. Long story short, she's thumbs up all around loving loving loving it. After day 1 or 2 she said she had two whiteheads so she was a little apprehensive but by day 5 she said noticeably more even tone and smoother skin - not 100% sure what this in ref to, maybe flattening/calming any breakouts bc we both tend to get hormonal acne on our chins. She sends me bare-faced product testing selfies pretty regularly and her chronic dark under eyes (since early teen years if I remember correctly so I believe they are genetically caused ones) were dramatically lighter. She's been compliments from random men on her skin. Men. Commenting on skin, not makeup.

      TL;DR - Good Genes is amazing, Juno was very meh for me (combo skin, concerned about hormonal acne and scarring, Hirons-y routine), my Sephora-girl sister is MAD for Luna.

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    2. Angelos, could you please clarify: You said, "She's thumbs up all around loving it". Which? Good Genes or the Luna?

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  5. Hi caroline, I use this as you do - every PM with a few drops of clarins lotus oil on top. Am thinking of swapping the clarins for SR Luna oil when that comes out - is the combination too strong?

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  6. Hi Caroline!

    I love this stuff so so much - I got a free sample from cult beauty - 10mL! - and it's worked wonders to clear up my skin, but I can't afford to purchase the full size. Do you have any recommendations for products that might have a similar effect, for a cheaper price?

    http://cat-gotyourtongue.blogspot.co.uk/

    Thankyou!! :)

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  7. Hi Caroline, if you get a chance please can you explain to me the difference and benefits between acids please - Lactic, Glycolic, and Salicylic. Thanks x

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  8. The cost was off putting so I researched GG for over a year before I invested. It's been the best skincare investment I've ever made! Hyper pigmentation and dull skin have been my biggest issues and Good Genes has definitely brought radiance back to my face. I'm on my second bottle.

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  9. Hi Caroline - which of your regulator acid toners would you consider mild enough to use with this? FAB? Pixi?

    Many thanks in advance!
    Hannah x

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  10. Bought this last year and it really changed my skin. I love it and will definitely repurchase. (I can't wait to get LUNA too)

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  11. I received a sample of this from Space NK & although I loved it, I thought it was far too expensive to consider buying full size.
    I gave in though& I have used it none stop.
    I use it as a mask when my skin is looking dull & you really don't need that much so it should last a while.
    Definitely worth the splurge!!

    Jenna xo

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  12. Hi Caroline,
    I had the same question as above…is it overkill to use both good genes and luna oil at the same time?

    Thanks

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  13. I really think I'd like this! Shame about the price tag that I can't afford ha!
    http://charlottesophiaroberts.blogspot.co.uk

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  14. Hi Caroline, So I have some discoloring and I'm really interested in trying this. On the tops of my cheeks though I have some redness (like small veins) will this aggravate this in your opinion??

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  15. Hi Caroline. I bought this last month after you kindly answered my question about it on Twitter and have been loving it since. I now have another question.....I know, I'm a pain in the hoop, sorry. I've just found out I'm pregnant and as I have a history of miscarriage I am very wary of what I put on my skin and in my body at the moment. I've tried to contact Sunday Riley to find out of it's suitable to use when you are pregnant but cannot get any information. Do you know if it is safe for me to continue to use or should I put it aside for the next few months? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

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  16. Can you use this while pregnant?

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  17. I am assuming the answer to the question is yes but I figure better safe than sorry. Is GG safe to use during pregnancy? I know you've said most things that aren't prescription strength are safe but I know you said the Luna oil isn't so I thought better safe than sorry. I appreciate any help you can give! Your blog is wonderful and it has really opened my eyes up to good skin care. Thank you for that.

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  18. I won this at your Belfast event (nearly died with the shock) ;) and have to say I am really impressed. I agree using it morning and night is overkill, but only because I am really trying to save it and not use it up too quick. I've already had compliments that my skin is looking nice.... one of my friends actually said "God you must have good genes or something" and I was like actually I do! Haha. Still waiting to see how it deals with the acne scarring on my chin but this may take some time as I do have alot of pigmentation from that.

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  19. Thank you, Caroline! I have been skipping the acid exfoliate when using this in the evening, but I'll throw something mild in as well.

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  20. Once I'm done with PTR unwrinkle pads I may give this a try!

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  21. Thanks for the review!

    Quick question: Am trying to decide between this and Luna (LOVE Ceramic Slip). I'm 30, combination skin, sometimes hormonal spots on cheeks/jawline (although rarely these days), skin's looking rather smooth and nice these days thanks in no small part to you. ;-) No wrinkles or fine lines yet (huzzah!).

    So, Luna or Good Genes?

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    1. I used GG and Luna together for the first time last night and my skin looks AMAZING this morning. I wasn't aware that we should be using toner, so I ordered one of her recommendations last night, first aid radiance pads.
      Order of use- Ceramic slip, good genes, Luna. I'm curious to know if Caroline thinks that's overkill. I don't want to waste my products especially when they're so expensive.
      I ordered Artemis for daytime use.

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    2. I just read now, per Sunday Riley rep, that GG should be used on top of the Luna oil. Good to know!

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  22. Hmm...I have big problems with hyperpigmentation and acne scarring, and have been using Skinceuticals advanced pigment corrector for a few months, but haven't been seeing results. Maybe I'll have to try this next time I'm out of the Skinceuticals.

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  23. Hi Caroline - Since discovering your blog, I have been steadfast in implementing skincare changes. I haven't missed a double (some days triple) cleanse twice a day, toning, serum etc etc for 10 months! And I can't tell you how dramatically my skin has improved. I'm 35 and have had horrible hormonal, painful acne since I was 15 years old and scar terribly - even if I don't touch them. My skin in olive in nature - oily in parts, dehydrated in others but mostly it's amazing now! I've even been going out of the house without makeup on my skin has improved that much and given that I would literally cry about the condition of my skin, this is HUGE for me.

    However, I'm slightly panicking now because my small patches of sun damage are becoming darker and I don't know why! I use "actives" like a mandelic (5%) toner, Skinceuticals Vit C serum and Skinceuticals Retinol 1% - I dropped Pixie as I felt glycolic wasn't suited to my skin - it seemed like it was making my fresh scarring darker. I wear 30+ SPF everyday. What am I doing wrong please? I was loving that I was loving my skin for the first time ever!

    Please help a patchy lady out!

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  24. Same question as several others Caroline... SR GG and then Luna on top or no? :)
    Melody

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  25. hmmm...interesting. Good thing that I don't have sensitive skin so I get to try this out. I wanna see the effects of it personally. It seems like a good one.

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  26. You are a godsend for somebody who has acne prone skin and had no idea about acids! Thank you for sharing your amazing knowledge.

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  27. Hello Caroline! Love you, your blog and your videos. I have sampled the Sunday Riley Good Genes and agree that it is smoothing and plumping to the skin (mine is combo and a bit sensitive) I already am using Liquid Gold a few times a week which I find to be excellent--is adding in a lactic acid product like Good Genes going to be too much? How much acid toner is too much? Is one acid toner enough? Thank you! Elizabeth

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    1. I am wondering the same thing did you ever get a reply?

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  28. just the post i needed!!!

    my skins has a few breakout but a few more scars and discolorations, midly sensive. i asked you on twitter about Estee Lauder ANR as it seems OK for my skin (i am 29 not against anti aging prevention) and easy to get a hold f but Sunday Riley's GG has been eyeing my since your started praising it.
    because of the few breakouts and dicoloration i re-tried Kiehl's dark spot corrective serum, it used to work wonders on my skin, but after applying it last nigh i woke up with the puffiest eyes ever and my skin feels so tight almost burnt, a typical allergic reaction.
    witch one should i try?
    THX

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  29. I feel like I'm all alone here, but I got 3 samples of this, used them as a mask (20+ minutes each time), and saw no result. The smell is like you found a bottle of your mother's Oil of Olay from 1970, so I thought it must work! I couldn't even imagine sleeping with it on given the texture. I just don't understand how there can be an expensive product out there that I don't want?!? ;)

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  30. My parents can afford Sunday riley good genes serum thing. What would you recommend. Because my skin isn't really oily and I don't have acne but I have a lot of spots especially on my forehead and when I squeeze them I get scars and the scars stay for a long time. Also I get quite a lot of blackheads on my nose and some on my forehead or my chin and I don't know what to use because what my mum uses doesn't help because she has different skin problems than me. What would you say would work for my skin problem?

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  31. I've been meaning to try this for ages, I will get round to it once I've got through the plethora of serums I seem to have accumulated!

    www.peonyandpeach.blogspot.com

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  32. Jerarrin (@HarlemKnightt)2 February 2015 at 06:39

    Hi,

    Would this be good to use at night after I use Epiduo (Adapalene & Benzoyl Peroxide)?

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    1. Hi i am also using epiduo. Wondering if you tried good genes with it and if you had any luck?

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  33. Please help us good genes users...just got luna, do we use them both? and which first? thanks luv...

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    1. I asked this question on Sunday Riley's Instagram account and they replied and said apply Luna first, then Good Genes.

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    2. Elle, thanks for your reply. After reading it, I hunted up the instagram post you mentioned. They did indeed say to apply Luna first, then Good Genes. However, I just bought Good Genes. The directions on the box say to apply Good Genes to clean skin.

      I think I'll head on over to the SR website and pose this question: Which is it? Luna first, then GG? Or GG on clean skin?

      If I get a reply I shall post it here.

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    3. I should mention that I made my purchase in the USA so perhaps packaging directions differ between the UK and the US?

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    4. Rather than ask via Instagram, I decided to go directly to the horse's mouth. I emailed the Sunday Riley company. Here is the response:

      "While we do typically recommend that you apply Good Genes on clean skin, with Luna in particular, we recommend that you apply that first and then your Good Genes treatment.

      That being said, for all of our other oils, we recommend that you apply them on top of Good Genes. "

      So there you have it.

      If using Luna, use the Luna oil first and follow with Good Genes. If using any other oil, put the Good Genes on first (directly onto clean skin), and follow with the oil.

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    5. Thank you for posting your reply from Sunday Riley!

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  34. Caroline, thanks for great content and advice!!

    Can you please do a post on SR Bionic vs Skin Adrenaline? I have used most of the SR line but have stayed away from these two because they're expensive and I don't really understand which does what. Thank you!

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    1. I second this. The prices on both have me very curious about the results. Thanks!

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  35. Thank you for your review on the Good Gene's Treatment... I was always intrigued by it and thought it sounded pretty amazing but noted Paula's beautypedia dislikes it quite a bit. I take her opinions with a grain of salt yet I can see some truth in some of her reviews, so it made me hesitant, especially since it's such a pricey item. I finally received a generous sample and LOVE it. Another reason why I need to stop myself from going to beautypedia because I wish I had found this item a long time ago. Blogger's such as yourself are a much more reliable source in my books! :) Thank you for existing!

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    1. One of the things I've noticed about Paula's reviews is that, for the most part, the only products that get a positive review are those that have been discontinued. If it's a currently available product, it gets a negative review, or at the most, a lukewarm comment.

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  36. Tell me about it. Every single product I use and love are rated terribly by Paula. Most of the products that are wonderfully rated in the beauty world are hated by her. It's annoying.

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    1. It makes her reviews completely unreliable. Her own products are highly rated (naturally, she wants to sell them!); if made by someone else (and currently available), they get low marks. She tries to fool us by giving an occasional high mark to a competing product, but if you look closely you'll see that, chances are, that product is no longer available. Her devious rating system makes me question her ethics, and as such, makes me loathe to buy her product.

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  37. Does anyone know if it's okay to use this along with a RX retinoic acid (0.04%)? I'm intrigued by all the rave reviews but am currently in month 4 of using my RX (still in the dryness/peeling stage) and don't want to exacerbate the dryness I'm experiencing. Maybe alternating between good genes and the RA every other night? Thanks!

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    1. Hi,
      Not Caroline, but am also using a prescription retinoid. My derm usually recommends I skip my RX when using a stronger chemical exfoliant. Perhaps you could experiment with alternating the two and see how you go?

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  38. If I've got both Luna and Good Genes, how do I use them in conjunction? Or should I not? Would love to hear from anyone who uses both products!

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    1. I use both products. The good genes should be applied over the Luna oil, per the Subday Riley site. You only need about half a pump of the good genes product over the Luna oil. I only use them together a couple of times a week. Your skin is going to love you! I

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  39. Hello!
    Btw thank you for all your hard work Caroline!
    MY questions is, would you use Good Genes together with Luna or any other oil from her range, or would you use it under a regular moisturiser?
    I get a lot of pimples on my chin that never come to the surface + blackheads around and on the nose.
    Slightly dry everywhere else

    Thank you
    x

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  40. Hello Caroline: I absolutely LOVE your channel and videos and have learned so much. I am a huge fan of Sunday Riley's LUNA and am finding great results. I now want to add on but can't decide between Good Genes and Artemis. I know they are two different things but sound like they both help clarify and brighten skin. I am 47 years old and need all the help I can get-- but find when I over do it, it brings on rosacea. So I am looking for a happy medium. Any guidance would be great. Thank you!

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  41. Caroline, I have been using Good Genes and Luna since they came available. I just discovered Vintner's Daughter and P50 (yes, I'm very behind). I ran out of my Sunday Riley staples and immediately ordered the others. P50 will arrive today.
    Do you feel the combo of VD and P50 will be as good, or better than my GG/ Luna? I am slightly worried and anxious. I miss GG already, but I'm thinking it's too much to add after P50?
    Thanks a bunch xx Jody

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    1. Interested in the reply to this. I'm using p50w but investing in some SR just not sure which- obvs I want them all ha xx

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  42. Has anyone tried this v Ren Wake Wonderful? Also lactic acid but with a smaller price tag...

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    1. I would also love an answer to this. Good Genes is, by far, the best and most effective skin product I have ever used. I'm on to my 3rd bottle and at the end of each I swear I will find a cheaper product. I end up regretting it and always go back to GG. If this is really a dupe then I'm in!

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  43. Has anyone tried this v Ren Wake Wonderful? The Ren is also lactic acid but with a smaller price tag...

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  44. Sorry for the late comment!

    If I use another serum (for instance, Caudalie Vinoperfect Radiance Serum), would I apply Good Genes first? Thank you!

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  45. Hi Caroline, I'm using lotion P50W at the moment. Should I get this, it not bother? Acne/oily skin age 39 just_claire_page

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  46. Where does it say that it contains 40% lactic acid? On the Sephora website, it says it contains 5%. I've seen this several places, but not on anything from the company.

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