Saturday, 4 April 2015

Biologique Recherche Lotion P50




What is it?
A liquid balancing exfoliator. Designed to strengthen the epidermis, exfoliate skin, regulate excessive sebum secretion, hydrate the skin, maintain the skin’s pH, and prevent and treat ingrown hairs.

Who is it for?
All skin types - there are three options available in the EU and six available in the US due to the addition of the three originals with added phenol.
P50V is for older skins lacking tone.
P50W is for sensitive skins.

What’s in it?
Water (Aqua), Gluconolactone, Lactic Acid, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Niacinamide, Citric Acid, Ethoxydiglycol, Magnesium Chloride, Malic Acid, Vinegar (Acetum), Phytic Acid, Salicylic Acid, Cochlearia Armoracia (Horseradish) Root Extract, Arctium Lappa Root (Burdock Root) Extract, Rumex Acetosa Leaf Extract, Myrtus Communis Extract, Commiphora Myrrha Resin Extract, Allium Cepa (Onion) Bulb Extract, Thymus Vulgaris (Thyme) Flower/Leaf Oil, Sulfur, Sorbitol, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate

Possibly acne/allergy/troubling for some ingredients?
Acids, sulfur

Natural? Organic? Man made? Vegan?
A mix of man made and plant - in the best way. :)

Tested on animals/sold in China?
No/Yes

What's not in it?
Alcohol
Glycolic acid

How do you use it?
Dampen a cotton pad, swipe over the face left to right, top to bottom, all the way down the neck. Flip the cotton pad over and go back up the way you came from!

What’s good about it?
Oh where to start? This was my first ever experience of an exfoliating acid, in Paris, 14 years ago. It was used at the beginning of a facial at Biologique Recherché and was immediately effective. It still sets the bar for me, exfoliating acid-wise. The now infamous '1970 Formula' is only available in the US, as the EU has banned phenol since I first started using it. How rude of them.
In fairness, this formula works better than the 1970 formula, it has less of a 'burn' and doesn't cause the skin to turn as red. Obviously, if you are a sensitive skinned user, that is preferable anyway..

This formula has gluconolactone, a poly-hydroxy acid, which is more gentle than glycolic, that also acts as an anti-inflammatory along with a higher concentration of lactic acid - and malic and phytic acids, both AHA's used to promote cell turnover and help with hyper pigmentation. 
The acids in this tackle skin problems from every angle - resurfacing, zapping blemishes, essentially 'stripping back' the skin so that what you use after it is more able to penetrate. I try and use P50 in the evenings when I'm following it with retinols/vitamin A serums or pigmentation products. That's why I generally use the others during the daytimes. Not a solid rule, more when I remember...

What’s not so good about it?
Some people don't like the smell (vinegar), but in a formula such as this, if you don't want alcohol, you need a preservative - and that's the job of the vinegar. Personally, I don't even notice it these days, such is the length of time that I've been using it, but forewarned etc..

Where to use in your routine?
After cleansing, before serums. 

Similar products? 
All the usual suspects, in varying degrees of strength. 
First Aid Beauty Pads 
Dennis Gross Alpha Beta Pads 
Clinique Mild Clarifying Lotion (only the mild one) 
Colbert Intensify Facial Pads 

Biologique Recherche P50 is available in the UK from EF Medispa here: efmedispa.com is around £50.00 for the 150ml size. It also comes in a bigger size. The problem is, you can't buy it online. That's the decision of Biologique Recherché, not EF Medispa, so don't blame them if you contact them! :) You can find worldwide stockists here: biologique-recherche.com




133 comments:

  1. Been using the p50 1970 very regular the last several weeks. Really noticing improvement in my skin. I look so plumped and well rested. And my skin is so very soft. I bought it because of you Caroline. Thank you!! XOXO

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  2. Rebecca Salomon4 April 2015 at 20:56

    Hi Caroline, lovely review (as always)! I was wondering if you have ever come across the P50T version of the lotion? If you have, what are your thoughts? I live in Israel and around these parts we can only get our hands on the P50T and P50W (and I think, if not mistaken, I have seen P50V...). Thank you in advance! Your advice has transformed my skin!

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  3. Le meilleur ! Je l adore ! Kiss from France

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  4. Which one do I buy p50v or p50 w please Caroline?

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    1. If your unsure start with the W and get accustomed to it then move up if you feel the need.

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  5. Ok sorry being a dumbass see the p50 now x

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    1. You're not a dumbass! I forgot to add the option descriptions in the original post. Totally my bad!

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    2. Ahh thank you I'm in the p50v camp then

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  6. Have you heard about p50T? What2s the difference about it? I have never heard anyone talk about that.

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    1. I have. It's available in Singapore. Apparently due to some ingredient that is not allowed in the country. Think tge ph level is higher. 3.5 instead of 3. That was what I was told. But I am not sure. Would like to know more toooooo....

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  7. Hi Caroline, What's the difference between p50 & p50 v & w? Thanks

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    1. Google is your best friend

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    2. Caroline just explained it! Read above! P50V for mature skins, W for sensitive.

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    3. How about p50?

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  8. Hi Caroline, I'm a new follower and absolutely love your blog! You have completely changed the way I view skincare!

    I was just wondering if you could give me a moisturiser recommendation? I am 23 and have fairly normal/slightly combination skin but I'm prone to pretty frequent breakouts. I always feel like I have at least one spot! I've changed my routine to be Caroline-Hirons-approved but the only thing I still think is a problem is my Clinique DDM moisturiser which I now know has mineral oil in it. Could you please recommend a replacement?

    Thank you so much, you help so many people and destroy so many bank balances!! x

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  9. Hello Caroline! Love your blog. You are a beacon of enlightenment. I use p50 every night ( stockist here in Ireland is Vedas Beauty ) and was hooked from my first facial. I use the Creme Placenta and Creme Dermopurifante. I'm very pleased to see you use it concurrently with Retinol. There's a parting of the waves when it comes to opinion on what low pH does to the activity of Retinol on the skin, but if you do it, then so shall I! June x

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    1. Just to confirm as well, I was told by an esthetician to use a retinol product at night in conjunction with P50. And if Caroline says it can be done, I try it!

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    2. Can you recommend a Retinol product for use after P50? I use P50W and have some post-acne inflammatory marks which aren't too bad but I want GONE GONE GONE! What about Medik8 3TR? Thanks x

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  10. What's the reason behind not allowing people to buy it online?

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    1. Well its working then! As you would say, RUDE. Love your sense of humor Caroline :D - Joy

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    2. I just bought it online from a spa in CA.

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    3. I just bought it online from a spa in CA.

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  11. I am going to Paris in a few weeks and was thinking of going to Biologique Recherche for a facial. Is it worth it or can I just buy the toner from the spa?

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  12. I am going to Paris in a few weeks and was thinking of going to Biologique Recherche for a facial. Is it worth it or can I just buy the toner from the spa?

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    1. I've been to the spa for a facial - one of the best I've ever had. Just amazing. My skin was tight and taut and glowy and super healthy. Get the big bottles of P50 in Paris!!!

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    2. I had a BR facial in Philadelphia and it was amazing, not by BR themselves but a spa that uses their products and remodeling face machine!

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    3. How much is p50 in Paris? I'm going in October and feel like I might stock up

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    4. Hi KZeautymakeup, the 150ml bottle is 44 euros. They say it last 4 months but I have it since 6 months now using it every day. The big bottle should be around 70 euros (i am not sure tho...)

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  13. Caroline, what's the issue with phenol? Can't wait to try this!

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  14. Hi Caroline, I have a question. Are the products you recommend suited for men?. I am askin because I have used the P50, Ren Acid toner, Liquid Gold, but they just made the mild breakouts in my forehead become huge cysts, and I don't believe it is the so called "purging" because I stuck using them for several months. Thanks

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    1. There isn't much difference when it comes to men's or women's skins. All brands do are just marketing!

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    2. It sounds like your skin might not be able to tolerate acids or AHAs, perhaps

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    3. To the original poster: you're probably intolerant to an ingredient. Cease use.

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    4. Thank you Caroline! The weird thing is that I get the same king of reaction from every acid toner I have used (REN, alpha H, P50) :( does it mean that I am intolerant to acids? what could I use instead for mild but persisting spots in my forehead? Thanks!

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    5. The first acids I tried were aha and they didn't suit my combination oily skin at all, so I tried bha exfoliants and got on a lot better. In hind sight I probably dived into acids head first and applied too often, should have allowed my skin to adjust. But I've now built up to using a liquid bha at 2% twice daily and loving it.

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    6. Thank you all for your suggestions! I am going to see a dermatologist this week, who will hopefully give an alternative to BHAs and AHAs to treat my problem. Although my breakouts are not severe unless I use an acid, they are very anoying as they are stubborn, and in the same area... I am desperate to find an alternative that helps me dealing with my skin issues, because I work as a model and I feel generaly insecure about my looks .

      Thank you all again :)

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    7. Does someone think that retiol or retin-A could help, instead of AHAs and BHAs?

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    8. Yes! Retinol could indeed help, assuming you aren't also intolerant to that. Try something mild to start, maybe once a week. If no adverse reaction appears ramp it up slowly. Since you mentioned above that your breakouts are not very severe, I would try retinol first before going into full on tretinoin (Retin A).

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    9. Retinoids will definitely help, for something gentle but still potent I like Sunday Riley Luna, also maybe try the FAB lactic pads as Caroline has suggested in previous posts. They are gentle, very gentle. Another good one is Sunday Riley Good Genes treatment/serum, in which, you can use in conjunction with Luna or alternately. It is a lactic acid based product. I have sensitive, dry & reactive skin and neither of the products have bothered me in any way. You get a little instant gratification as well as long term benefit. The oil will last a while but Good Genes can go quickly if you use a full pump. A half does the trick! Good luck & just know that no matter how insecure you feel about yourself, your important and beautiful in more than the ways you see yourself in the mirror! Your a model for crying out loud!!!!

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    10. Thank you Todd and Cat for your suggestions!, do you know which brand/retinol I would be safer starting with? If I remember right Paula's Choice has a 1% retinol in their resist range, but then I have also seen that Skinceuticals have different strenght retinols ( 0,5 and 1%). Has anyone used any of these products? Which would you recommend for sensitive skin?

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    11. I have used the Paula's Choice and do not like it, in my opinion, Paula is AGGRESSIVE, and I avoid her stuff at all cost!! I haven't used the Skinceuticles product, however, I have used many Skinceuticles products and have found none of them irritating to my reactive skin. I think retinol will definitely help you but it's cumulative so you won't see the results that soon. I would definitely give the FAB daily facial radiance pads a try, they are lactic acid based and the most gentle product I've used. They contain absolutely no salicylic which some people believe is what causes your skin to "purge." You can get them in the smallest size for under $20USD. Caroline has mentioned them in previous posts. I think they may really help you while you begin using your retinol product (at night). Also I would recommend easing into the retinol product to minimize peeling or flaking, which doesn't happen to everyone but just to be safe. I would try every other-other day or every other at the least.

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    12. Thank you! I will definitly check the FAB pads if they worked well for you :)

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    13. I just called BR and the P50W (new version only, NOT 1970) DOES NOT contain salicylic acid, so I am going to give that a go and I will report back for all of you that have experienced a bad reaction. Mind you, the 1970 formula is only available in the states... I think!

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    14. Hi Goar, I am currently using the 0.5% retinol from Skinceuticals and my skin is loving it! Now, I am not sure how my skin would rank in the sensitivity scale, but for a little context, I finished a course of Accutane a year ago and my skin can no longer tolerate many things it used to, the original P50 with phenol being one of them. However, it seems to be liking this retinol, and also the P50V phenol-free version. If it is the acids your skin is reacting to, I think the 0.5% retinol could be a good place to start :) I think after I finish this tube I will try the Skinceuticals 1% and/or the Luna oil. Good luck!

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    15. I was going to order Skinsceuticals 0.5% retinol cream but then I realised that it can not be shipped to Sweden for some reason, so as an alternative I was considering maybe trying La Roche posay Redermic R 0.3% retinol because that is the one that I can get in my country. I haven't found that many reviews about that product though, but I might give it a try :)

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    16. Todd, I would love to know how your skin reacts to the P50W if you dicede to give it a go :)

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    17. Goar Mura,

      It arrives today, I will use it tonight, the other P50 lotions did not take much time for my skin to go crazy. The spots that the other lotions created (which I think is just from over exfoliation or the salicylic acid) have all cleared up. So, it will be a fresh start & nothing else in my routine has changed. Also, Environ makes a nice retinol product in the AVST range and they are numbered from 1 to 5 (I think), They are variant in strength with 1 being the lowest. They range is loaded with other antioxidants as well. Its a very nice gentle product, I am currently using Level 2, I went through 3 samples of Level 1 with no irritation whatsoever and ordered the Level 2 which I have now been using for a little over a month. Also, the Sunday Riley Luna oil is very nice and has never caused any reactions for me. I will let you know how P50W works out. It should only take a couple days for my skin to freak out if its going to. Will report back then.

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    18. GM,

      Here is the inci for P50W (phenol free version)

      Water, Gluconolactone, Glycerin, Niacinamide, Propylene Glycol, Lactic Acid, Ethoxydiglycol, Magnesium Chloride, Malic Acid, Vinegar, Phytic Acid, Citric Acid, Quillaja Saponaria Bark Extract, Cochlearia Armoracia (Horseradish) Root Extract, Arctium Lappa Root Extract, Capsicum Frutescens Fruit Extract, Arnica Montana Flower Extract, Sulfur, Allantoin, Sodium Salicylate, Serine, Urea, Sorbitol,
      TEA-Lactate, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Benzoate.

      So, there are a couple good ingredients in there to cut inflammation, i.e.: Arnica Montana & Allantoin

      After the first use it just really felt like when I would tone with apple cider vinegar, no sting, burn or flushing. Will report back to let you know how I'm doing with it at the end of the week.

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    19. GM,

      P50W is working out well! Using it day & night in the beginning and the last couple days night only as it starting to get quiet sunny here. I would still maybe try the FAB pads b/c of how gentle and inexpensive they are. Anyway, I definitely think it was either the salicylic acid or the fact that it was just simply to much exfoliation. "Purging" will never give you cystic acne, if you get an actual pimple or two, okay, but big angry red places shouldn't happen!! Good Luck!!

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    20. I don't know if anyone is going to reply, still, here goes..I have combination-oily skin, not very sensitive. Can I use P50 and Alpha-H liquid in alternate days or will it be too much? Sorry to sound like a dumbass, I've been a tomboy all my life, very new to skincare..

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  15. So basically it's impossible for most people in the UK to get their hands on? :-/ Caroline, if like me you were unable to get this, which exfoliating toner would you say was next on your list? I currently use; Pixi, Liquid Gold and First Aid Beauty Pads (Pixi being my favourite) but if there's something better then I'd like to give it a try.

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    1. It is available if you pop into EF Medispa in London.

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    2. Hi Lisa, from reading through her blogs etc - I would say Pixi Glow Tonic is the next one on the list. I would love to get my hands on P50! Trip to London sounds on the cards lol ;) x

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    3. if you are in the US, you can order from Rittenhouse Spa in Philly, just create an account through their website to shop & see prices

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    4. I'm in Scotland so London isn't even an option for me. Stick with the Pixi then, just fancied something with a bit more oomph.

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    5. Peter Thomas Roth Unwrinkle Pads have more oomph as do Dr Dennis Gross Alpha Beta Pads extra strength extra oomph. Can you get these in Scottland?

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    6. Hi Lisa,
      EF Medispa will post to you, give them a call, google EF Medispa for details. I have been meaning to get into London and visit them, but think I will just ask for them to post now too.

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  16. I don't understand if I can use it twice a day in my skincare routine or just once.

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    1. Caroline mentions it in her post. Re read it.

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    2. If your skin can tolerate BR recommends 2x per day ultimately, but using it once a day everyday is better than trying to use it 2x a day and then over exfoliate and have to take days or weeks off.

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  17. Hi Caroline! Any thoughts on using the sensitive version with a prescription retinoid (not at the same time, obvs - more like an every-other-night rotation or something)? I've just started the lowest strength of Differin for my acne, and I fear my beloved Pixi Glow Tonic is now too strong (I use it in the AM and the Differin at night - it's keeping the flakies at bay, but my skin is feeling a bit raw and sad). Thank you!

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    1. Hi Amanda, I'm obv not Caroline, but I also use tretinoin, prescription strength retinoid like you. when my skin feels a little sensitive, on the nights I use my acid treatment, I skip the tretinoin. Also, I usually layer a moisturiser over my tretinoin on my dry areas. That seems to help too. And I like to use an aloe propolis gel which seems to really soothe my skin. I use a Korean brand called Benton which has a short ingredient list and no alcohol, inexpensive and no filler ingredients. Hope that helps! Mia

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  18. I'd love to see a video of how to apply acid toner with a cotton pad.

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    1. rescuespa.net shows the way P50 lotion should be applied.

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    2. I just watched it. Let's just say that's not how I do it! 🙈🙈

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    3. that video is not how they applied it during the facial either, however the instructions do say "apply without rubbing", if it suits your fancy then by all means RUB. I find that I have same reaction (which is an over reaction) whether I rub, pat, dab or whatever else you wanna call it. Do you think given I have a reaction to the product, that I would benefit more from the daily use of something more gentle like FAB pads or using P50 once to twice per week?

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  19. Hi Caroline! Could you please give an example (or two) ;) of a pigmentation product you like for post-P50 use on 40ish skin? Thank you!

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    1. Yes please I would like this too. I have a great acid regime but I don't have a serum treatment I feel confident adding afterward that has any real affect. All prep and no BANG! Especially in the pigmentation dept.

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  20. I have the same question as above. What's the big deal with phenol? I'm in the US and switch b/t 1970 and the one you use. All I can find are"scary" phenol stories which just seem overboard.

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  21. Why Caroline! Why must you mention this prduct so many times in your blog posts! Now I must own it!

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    1. And you will love it like I finally do after waiting and waiting.

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    2. I went to another island in hong kong to get p50 w, took me one hour train ride, well worth it..I have never seen toner this effective..You will love it, glowing, tightening, in Caroline words biggest OOMPH I've ever had...I apply at night, personally I find it too much twice a day..Hope it helps..

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    3. Please tell me where did you get it in HK!

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  22. Caroline, PLEASE PLEASE HELP!! I have been using 1970 P50 for about 2 months and have constantly had breakout areas (my skin seems to be "purging" which has never occurred before & according to your purge post from way back when that's my skin saying stop!) that clear up a week after I stop using it, then I try to slowly reintroduce it back into my regimen in a 50/50 dilution and still get breakouts! It hs never stung or caused any flushing in my face from day one. I also tried the P50V and it did the same. Should I just stop all together or try a phenol free version or maybe the P50W? I have hyperpigmentation so I need this! And I can not do manual exfoliation bc if it's left up to me I will sand paper my mug!!! Thank you in advance & happy Easter to you and the fam!

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    1. *Raises hand* Yup, same issue here, using P50W. And like a previous commenter, I also find it turns ornery little spots into mad huge cystic buggers if I follow the acid toning advice on the 'Sudden breakouts' cheat sheet. Would really appreciate any advice.

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    2. If it helps, I believe the whole 'purging' thing to be a load of baloney. Your skin reacts according to what goes on it, there are no hidden spots under the surface waiting until their time has come to break out and ruin your face one slow pimple at a time. If the P50 is making you break out then you need to change it Because your skin is reacting to one or two of the ingredients in it. Use the gentler one or switch to a different liquid exfoliator. For hyperpigmentation, you need to look at serums, not exfoliators, Pixiwoo and Alpha H do great ones as well as the Mild Clarifying lotion by Clinique Caroline has mentioned before. Ruth Crilly did a trial on Olays Regenerist Luminous serum for uneven skin tone, it would be worth having a read at it.

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    3. As I wrote in my previous comment, I get the same bad reaction from using acid toners :( my skin just seems to disagree with acids in general, because I get HUGE cysts out of nowhere the day after I have used an acid toner (REN, liquid gold, P50) and they dissapear when I stop using them, but I still get the mild, very annoying breakouts in my forehead (which I personally prefer to the huge cysts I get from acid toners) . Like Todd also mentioned, I have tried diluting the toners with 50/50 of water on a cotton pad, but the reaction is still the same. I have started wondering if our skins are just "reactive" (allergic?) or sensitive to AHAs and BHAs.

      PS: even if I got this kind of reaction after a few uses of the toners, I have stuck to them for 3 or 4 months, but my skin never seems to get used to them, so I have stopped using acid toners and I have 3 bottles just accumulating dust which is kind of frustration considering their price. Any advice would be highly appreciated! :)

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    4. I have the EU version of the P50, without phenol.

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    5. I've had the same problem before but only with toners that contain witch hazel. Try one without witch hazel and it might help. I like the first aid pads and the Clinique mild.

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    6. Goar Mura, if you still have acne on your forehead whether or not you use an acid toner then it might have something to do with the other products you use. I personally find if I use natural skin care products I will breakout, or if I damage my acid mantle by overcleansing (this causes senstivity in alot of otherwise normal skins) . For some people its just plain old hormones, or for some its milk. To be honest, it sounds like your skin is sensitive if using a toner is giving you such an aggravated reaction.

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    7. maybe your'e over exfoliating? do you do the "spray/hydrating toner" step after you use it?

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    8. No I do not per BR's instruction. I specifically called and asked them, P50 shouldn't be "neutralized." I know other acid exfoliating products have a neutralizing step.

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    9. Hey Todd, I too experienced some cystic breakouts after using the P50 (original without phenol), but they stopped after 3 months. 4 huge ones in a line across my chin. I guess it was just my clogged pores purging the gunk out to the surface. I stopped getting them after my third month and my skin evened out though I still do get the occasional hormonal zit on my jawline/chin. Perhaps soldier on for another month and monitor your skin. If you're still breaking out then you might be allergic to something in the toner.

      http://charmystique.com/

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    10. thanks charmystique, i have not hit the 3 month mark yet

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    11. I'm beginning to wonder if it's causing some sort of mild purge on me too. Been using it consistently for about a month and had a white surface on my forehead two days ago. And Ive got a new way under the surface something in the chin area. Oh dear!

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  23. what tosh, vinegar as a preservative !!?? when they have three preservatives already in this formula, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate

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    1. Calm down Mary!
      None of those preservatives can legally be used at more than 1%. Vinegar being a natural preservative isn't held to those restrictions and also makes a comfortable 'acid' home for all the acid ingredients. This isn't a bar of soap.

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    2. They cannot be used in more than 1% concentration and that 1% is enough to preserve a formula in which they are used, as determined by testing. Any product that contains water needs a preservative and commercial products cannot rely on low pH alone. This looks like a good product. Look, it even contains niacinamide, which I wish showed up in ingredient lists more frequently.

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  24. That was extremely helpful. The inci list in particular, as it tells me that even the W formula for sensitive skin is likely to be a problem. I can stop being interested in this one!

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  25. Hello! Does anyone know where this can be purchased from in the US? Thank you

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    1. You can purchase online from Rescue Beauty Spa in Philly. That's where I get mine. Pretty easy.

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    2. You can purchase most BR products including all 6 P50 formulas through Rittenhouse Spa in Philly. Just google them and go to their website, its rescuespa.net.... I think. There you will need to create an account to see prices of some products but doesn't mean you have to buy, and then you can purchase whatever your heart desires! They also carry Valmont, who makes a fabulous eye cream!! I traveled there for a facial and it was amazing. The products also have expiration dates listed on the package and none of the products I have received from there expire until late 2017, which I have read that being a problem for some people ordering online. If you have any questions you can email them and they give great advice for just over the web. I will say, the product is strong, & as Caroline stated the P50 is the strongest, P50V the next & P50W the weakest. All three formulas can be purchased phenol free or with phenol (the 1970 versions). I am currently using P50 1970 diluted 50/50 with filtered water and its to much for me. They all are the same price, I believe. The 8.4oz bottle is around $90 and the 5.1oz (can't remember exactly) is roughly $60. Good luck!!

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  26. I just LOVE my P50W lotion! Since I started using it about a month ago, I have seen such an improvement in my skin tone and texture. Overall it is smoother, brighter and I've had no eczema flareups/redeness since. (yay!)

    I'm from Canada and buy it online from La Chambre des Dames spa in Montreal. http://boutique.lachambredesdames.com

    Highly recommend. Great review Caroline!

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    1. THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION! I have been buying from Rescue Spa in the States and jumping through hoops to get it delivered to friends/family who then forward it to me in Canada. You just make my life easier! And theirs too hahaha :)

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    2. You are so welcome!

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    3. Optimum skin care in Vancouver sells it too.

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  27. Hi Caroline! I always respect and value your suggestions, so months ago I purchased P50. I used it ias directed and it caused my face to break out all over, in some places I had never had acne before. I stopped using it and went to the dermatologist (who put me on antibacterial meds...I know, bad move) and now I'm back to having horrible skin texture and hormonal acne. Is it possible that p50 just doesn't work for some, or is there something else going on? My skin was fine, with the occasional monthly pimple and I was so excited to try this miracle product. At this point I am skeptical and scared to try any toners.

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  28. I have been using P50 for a year and loved it. Unfortunately since about December my skin has been reacting to it by going bright red, blotchy and then dry. It is still well within its best before date. It has taken me until now to get my skin back to a somewhat normal state. Not sure why this has happened as P50 really helped me to achieve super smooth and spot free skin for so long. I am now on the hunt for a new acid toner to use instead, sniff...

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  29. Hi Caroline! Have you ever used the placenta toner or creme dermopurifiante? What are your thoughts on them?
    Thank you and love the info you provide!!! :)

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    1. I am currently using Serum (not toner) Placenta and the only thing I think it is helping with is puffy under eyes. It was told to me to use it for hyperpigmentation. I am also using Serum Oligo-Marine Peptide and it's fabulous. You only use it for one month at a time. I have used dermopurifiante as well and I like it, it was recommended to me to use at night time only to help purify the skin. I have read other reviews where people with full on acne use it and it dramatically helps with their skin. I will say it stinks (yeasty) and has a weird texture so if those are important to you, maybe skip. I am currently using Creme Verte Espoir at night which also calms and purifies the skin, it has the same texture and smell as dermopurifiante. It hasn't caused me to break out even though it contains MINERAL OIL! I don't have the box for the dermopurifiante anymore and can't remember if it had it in it as well. So if that is something your iffy on then you can absolutely call BR themselves as they have an office in NYC, they are kind and helpful.

      As a side note, they told me the pH of the P50 lotions are "about 3"

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  30. Hi Caroline, Do you recommend any other products from BR besides the P50?

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    1. its up in the post, a good affordable one is FAB daily radiance pads in which Caroline has reviewed. Super gentle. Good luck!

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  31. Aida Bicaj in NY sells BR products online as well. I'm from CA and if anyone is in the LA/OC areas, Lemaje Skincare (Beverly Hills), Dr. Norman Leaf (Beverly Hills), and Athenian Skincare (Irvine/Newport Beach). Also, Spa Elysee in Burlingame/San Jose and Jill Bucy Skincare in Seattle, WA.....all of which I have been to!!!

    Can you tell I have done my research? hehehe

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    1. Hi Rani, I know you posted this comment a while ago, but I'm wondering if you could give me some advice please? My niece is going to Disneyland this week and I'm wondering if you would know if there is anywhere that P50 can be purchased near there?

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  32. This might be a bit of an odd/dumb question, but I'm curious as to why you never mention REN clarifying toning lotion along with your suggestions for affordable exfoliating toners (such as Pixi's, FAB's, and so on), knowing you've raved about it before! What am I missing? Thanks xx

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    1. I was wondering the same thing!!

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  33. AAAHHH just because it's an abbreviation doesn't mean it needs an apostrophe!!! "AHAs" please - read this! http://www.apostrophe.org.uk/page2.html

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  34. Hello,
    Is it normal that you breakout in the begging while using this product ? .. I've been using it for almost a month once a day and I am breaking out , and I called a couple of Biologique resellers and they told me it is normal as it's clearing your skin out, it will get better when you stick with it, is it true?
    Please help as I trust your thoughts:)
    Thanks!

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    1. You could definitely break out when starting anything new. If your skin is looking inflamed with cystic like spots its most likely due to over exfoliation and something within the product not settling for you. Like a lot of others have experienced. Scroll through some of the previous comments to see if any of the situations sound like yours. I stopped using the product and my face healed right up (and right up isn't like over night sadly, more like weeks!) but nevertheless, it healed. The cystic spots stopped coming. I tried using different formulas of P50 and had the same result, I even had the same result while diluting the P50. I just received the P50W (which is the only formula that doesn't contain salicylic acid) today and have used it once, I will continue use and report back to let you know how it goes. I would just take a week off and see how your spots change. If I was said company and sold you a product that caused you to experience said breakout, you call and inquire about it, I will then tell you, "oh! your supposed to be breaking out, your skin is purging," so you will continue to use my said product.... see where this is going? Your skin doesn't purge, products don't open up the flood gates letting out a sea of sebum thats been hiding out under your skin. Caroline has written a post on "purging." After a month, I think, I THINK, the product is not right for you. Trust me, I know when you buy a $100USD product you want the damn thing to be a miracle, but thats not always the case. Like I said, I would take a week off see how your skin responds to that and if so maybe try something more gentle like the FAB Daily Radiance pads. Have you used BHA exfoliants before and had no problem? I have a problem with salicylic acid. I will let you know how the P50W is going after a week or so of use as the other P50 versions only took a couple days to make my skin very pissy at me!

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    2. Hello Todd,
      Thank you so much for your helpful reply!! Well to be honest I can't tell if I am allergic to it or not, because I tried stopping using it for almost two weeks but my skin hasn't changed that much.. I don't have inflamed face nor cystic acne, only couple of cystic on the chin area;; what surprises me when the first month of using the lotion my skin was perfect and did help previous acne scars,, I recall that I did purchase a new primer laura mercier "radiance" during the last months do you think it could what is actually causing the breakouts?
      Thanks

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  35. I have used the original P50 for a few months now and I cannot believe what a huge difference it made.
    Thankfully I don't have many wrinkles ( yet I hate those damn naslobial folds, but I may just have to get fillers for those), however, my skin used to be so dry that only The original La Mer cream would give me some comfort.
    Long story short I don't understand one very strange thing about my P50. After having used it for ca. 1.5 month my skin started to become extremely dewy, meaning so nicely moisturized that I skipped any kind of follow up cream or serum and just left P50 on my skin. Since P50 awakens some sort of junkie behavior ( I call it crack for my face) , I had to order 2 weeks prior to running out and when I mentioned to the BR spa lady that I skipped any and all skincare and purely use the Lait U face wash and P50 she freaked out and gave me quite a lecture. Is it really that bad for my skin not following up with a cream or serum, is my dewy skin just a figment of my imagination, will somebody have to get me on "Intervention" in order to stop my P50 obsession? IF I put moisturizer on after my P50 routine, my skin just doesn't look or feel as good the next morning than without ( after toning I also put a good 30 drops of P50 right on my face and pat it in, it feels very close to applying glycerin, love a slightly tacky feeling anyway.).
    I bought Sunday Riley's Luna a few days ago just to see if I really do need a bit more, and even though it's a great oil my face is drier than with just the P50 the next morning.
    Is it a cardinal sin only to use a cream cleanser and P50, will I shrivel up like a prune in no time without an after care?
    Alright, enough hard cider induced rambling. Bottom line P 50 is crack for your (my) skin and I this case "Crack ain't whack".

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  36. Who is Todd Belk?

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  37. Just a regular ole person looking to take care of their skin.

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  38. Hi Caroline I hope you to be fine ,, Narjys from Dubai 30 years old. I have a pigmentation on my face what is your advise. I can buy online. For any recomandation ?! Thanks

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  39. I'm definitely a bit late to this post- but hopefully you still check the comments. Do you know the percentages of gluconolactone, lactic acid, and salicylic acid in this? Even though I love (LOVE) my P50 (even if I wish it didn't have niacinamide at such a low pH), it has always driven me absolutely nuts that I don't know the percentages.

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  40. I have been using Biologique Recherche in my clinic in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire.. It's a fantastic natural solution to all skin conditions and a preventative for ageing.. My clients love the results, and P50 Lotion is a great place to start.. If you want any further advice get in touch..

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    1. Which spa is this? I live in leamington :)

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  41. Just to update this product is sold on line.

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  42. @Goar I'm not sure If you have access to this, but if you can order Skin Accumax online it can completely turn your skin around. It worked for me and I had terrible cystic acne. You have to give it time, but it works. @tanzin, you should be able to use both.

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  44. I don´t understand where you buy P50V for mature skins if you live in Sweden? Does anybody know?

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    1. Hi! I live in Stockholm, Sweden and today I bought my first P50 bottle - the P50W for sensitive skin in my case - at Revivekliniken. Google them, they do facials with BR products too and have a trained BR-representative there who was really nice to me;)


      *The bottle cost 530SEK, 150 ml

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  45. Just an FYI if you are in the UK you can buy over the phone from biologique renerche. They do a phone consultation first and are really lovely. Sounds like they are interested to hear from more good spas/beauticians in the UK to become stockists too if anyone here is in that line of work. Just go to thier website for information on where to call. Please note that it is not the 1970s formula since that can't be sold in the UK. They are well aware of Caroline too by the sounds of it.

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  46. I recently purchased the P50W lotion. I love it. I have sensitive skin, so the P50W is strong enough right now for me. However, I'm confused on how to incorporate it into my skincare routine. I only want to use it at night. (Using an acid, besides my beloved L-Ascorbic Acid serum, during the day just doesn't work out for my skin). I am also using Differin gel, and like to use a 2% BHA (the P50W doesn't have BHA). Can I use an exfoliant at the same time as Differin? I was thinking about either of these scenarios:

    Alternate with P50W and PC 2% BHA every other night. Wait 10-30 minutes, then apply Differin.

    Or 5x a week use Differin. 2x a week use P50W, wait, then use PC 2% BHA.

    I'm really confused with the whole Retinol/AHA/BHA combination thing. I like all the products, and they all do different amazing things to my skin, I'm just not sure how to combine them. I read that you can use prescription Retinol products at the same time as an AHA/BHA, but I'm not sure if I need to worry about the different pH levels. So confused.

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  47. Can I use this with Sunday Riley good genes treatment or Drunk Elephant T.L.C. Framboos Glycolic Night Serum? Way too much exfoliation?

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  48. Which is better P50 or Liquid Gold?

    X

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  49. You can buy it from Revivekliniken in Stockholm.

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  50. Hi Caroline!

    I have started using the P50W lotion as the lady in their liberty counter has suggested. I apply with a damp cotton pad and follow with serum and moisturizer. However I have realized that in the bottle it is written that you remove the lotion with mineral water spray or L'eauxygenante. ( directions for use section ) I'm confused now. Do I need to rinse off after applying??

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